Posts by man in black

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The Judicial Committee videos in english

by confusedandalone in

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not sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.

how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.

man in black

six years ago my Mom died. I attended a grief group handled by a certified counselor.

The ability to speak freely, and the support shown by, and for each member was just amazing.

If I had followed the advice, and mentality shown by the two elders in this video, I can say very securely that I would still be walking around with

a huge gap in my life. Not entirely from the death, but from the lack of basic understanding of what a person goes through. For &(^& sakes guys, the lady is actually talking about KILLING herself. Telling her to read some verses, and giving her an assignment ?? How about a suicide hotline ?

I keep in contact with the leader of that grief group, and she has mentioned to me that if someone even considers, or mentions suicide proper authorities such as a doctor/hospital/hotline should be spoken of . And the person should be assisted in getting the proper help.

Helping the person should be a major focus, not blathering on about examples found in the bible.

Unreal how the leaders of the jw religion consider their advise to be "the truth"

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Do you have AT&T Uverse for TV? How do you like it?

by Iamallcool in

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how do you like at&t uverse for tv?

i was reading that i can get text messages from my cell phone on tv, thats why i might be interested to get it but i have read bad reviews about uverse and bad reviews might be planted..

man in black

We have it, it works alright. But our package deal has internet service also. Bad, bad, bad.

And one other thing, their customer service is horrble. My wife is one of those pit bull customers. When they place her on hold she usually waits at least 25

minutes THEN gets transferred to another person and waits at least 20 minutes.

When she get a real live human on the phone she tells them how long her wait time was, and we get (95% of the time) a discount on our package for the next 3-4 months.

So, just be ready to play the game f you do end up using them.

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What allows parents to shun their children ?

by man in black in

my son, went to college and got his bachelors degree.

he started his own anmation company about two years ago, and it really has taken off.. while my wife and i were witnesses, we both received grief about allowing our son to go to college, but we stood up for him and backed his decision to attend 110%.. anyway, this past week he finally closed on a very nice, neat condiminium .. and while he is getting ready to move out on his own, i have quite a few feelings of sadness,as a parent, seeing him move on is kinda rough, but realizing that this is a very good thing for him makes it easier.

he will only be about 7 miles away.

man in black

My son, went to college and got his Bachelors degree. He started his own anmation company about two years ago, and it really has taken off.

While my wife and I were witnesses, we both received grief about allowing our son to go to college, but we stood up for him and backed his decision to attend 110%.

Anyway, this past week he finally closed on a very nice, neat condiminium .

And while he is getting ready to move out on his own, I have quite a few feelings of sadness,as a parent, seeing him move on is kinda rough, but realizing that this is a very good thing for him makes it easier. he will only be about 7 miles away. (

Don't worry,,We're not those "velcro parents" at all. Just seeing someone that we raised move on like this is really different.

I was doing alot of thinking these past few days, and I just cannot wrap my mind around the witness thinking. (We da'ed ourselves eight years ago).

Actually leaving your children totally because they do not believe the parents religion,,,,

My son is moving out, and it is hard . But actually walking away like many jw parents do,, well I would no doubt have problems that would make me leave the religion, and no doubt become a heavy drinker or something along those lines.

I knew quite a few witness parents who wore like a badge their great skill in neglecting their kids totally as the shunning doctine states. Sometimes I would be in awe because of the parents "great faith", but now I cannt even begin to comprehend how someone could just leave their chldren/relatives because of a religion.

What is it that mentally allows witness to completly leave their children ?

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better to stay in or get out

by Crazyguy in

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i put in a da letter a couple of weeks ago but the elders have not opened the letter and wish to meet with me first.

i've seen the stress this has caused me and my family as well as the alienation of me from the family spiritually.

so the question is can i do more to get my kids out of this cult by staying a member going to meetings some times and planting seeds or get out and try to then get the kids out over time?

man in black

You have submitted the letter, you are basically. Painted into a corner right now. The elders are probably just waiting to see your reaction to their request.

when i wrote my letter, i sent one to the kh, and another copy to bethel.

The local elders ignored my letter for over two months. But when the co came , the crap hit the fan. Suddenly ALL the elders were concerned and wanted to talk. I ignored them, and let my letter do the talking.

finally two weeks after the co visit they announced it.

so do what your heart says, just be ready to deal with any backlash.

BTW, how do they know what your letter says if they have not opened it yet,,,, do they know already ?

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How much more strange can this get ?

by man in black in

ladt night i was talking to a coworker who's sister is a witness in my old hall, and i needed some asprin after listening to this.. how can this be tolerated by people who believe that they alone speak the truth ?.

a young couple ( early 30's) had two children, and they adopted another boy from the inner city, so they have three boys under the age of 13.. the father is a construction worker, and mom works pt doing various jobs.. as a babysitter they use the respected teenaged son of a very prominent elder.

well, the parents breakup.

man in black

Ladt night I was talking to a coworker who's sister is a witness in my old hall, and I needed some asprin after listening to this.

How can this be tolerated by people who believe that they alone speak the truth ?

A young couple ( early 30's) had two children, and they adopted another boy from the inner city, so they have three boys under the age of 13.

The father is a construction worker, and Mom works pt doing various jobs.

As a babysitter they use the respected teenaged son of a very prominent elder. Well, the parents breakup. Mom was having an affair with the sitter, and she left her family to move in with the boy. Parents got an official divorce, and Mom married the boy after about a year together.

The Father remarried, to a sister who has some personality problems and he bought another house.

Meanwhile after two years, the Mom and her teenaged husband move to a neighboring hall, and apply to be reinstated together. That process took about a year and a half, but they both are now happily back in the religion.

I would see her in the store once in a while and would talk to her with no problem since we were both no longer witnesses. But since she is back, whenever I or my wife run into her and her husband while shopping we get the most grand shunning imaginable.

Sitting bac and looking at the whole situation, it is just so mentally insane to me seeing how three families were torn apart, and by playing the system with appearances and sympathy, now everyone is back.

By the way, the original Dad who got remarried walks around when I see him like someone has cut him in two. I really feel for him, but how does he manage to attend the same hall with his new looney wife, and watch his old wife smiling, and having a wonderful time with the boytoy who is spending alot of time with the children?

and people wonder why witnesses are depressed,

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The real reason the WBATS don't want you in college!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

the wbats have ramped up no college for jws once again.

the first time they backed off of it is because they noticed a person flipping hamburgers or cleaning toilets are not able to donate much money... so the wtbats says lets allow them to at least get a 2 year degree, then they can donate a little more... this goes on for awhile, but then the wbats notice that many who go to college are leaving...

well because they gain knowledge and distance themselves from the cult and it's ignorance, have access to outside sources, and eventually learn ttatt!!!

man in black

OK I work at a two year community college and during semesters the witnesses have a table set up in the student area everY Wednesday.

How can they sit there and try to get followers, yet go against the whole reason the college exists ?

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"Is my life now more meaningful, and am I happier?"

by Julia Orwell in

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so the question is posed in this week's watchtower study at our former cult's houses of indoctrination.

i should like to answer it, and i should like to hear your answers too.. the question is in two parts, and i shall address each one in turn.. q. is my life more meaningful?.

my life is more meaningful.

man in black

Sounds like your on the right track, good for you !

as a witness, I pretty much allways felt that I had a ball and chain around my neck, and doing most anything that I really enjoyed was out of reach.

But after leaving there is quite a bit of residual negative thoughts, and age is a growing concern.

But I still do many enjoyable things that I would get depressed about when I was a witness.

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I think my fade has hit a rut. Do I need to grow a pair?

by konceptual99 in

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so here i am after about 18 months of wake up.

the first 6 months were a rollercoster of feelings as my whole belief system unravelled.

the last year has been more stable but things seem like they are just stalling now.. my wife is aware of many of my feelings although i have held back the fact that i am pretty close to denying all belief in any kind of god.

man in black

Hi, I was in the same boat as you, slowly fading but never having the courage to just walk away and be done with it.

My perfect storm hit when my Mother (witness for 25 years) died.

All of those so called friends from the jw organization showed their true colors and acted like nothing happened.

I wrote my letter, mailed one to new york, and the other to the po and never went back to the hall.

My wife saw what was going on, and Da ed herself sevekral weeks later.

Gods spirit in action !

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Were People Surprised When You Left The Witnesses?

by minimus in

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mine was a gradual going away.

but once it dawned on them, i think people were shocked that i left the religion i espoused from youth.. were people "in the truth" and "in the world" surprised by your departure?.

man in black

Oh yea.

My wife and I left at the same time.

We were in for over twenty years, and were good examples, steady people.

one elder said " do you know why you two are well respected in the hall "?

its because you dont cause any problems, and we ( the elders) like that.

one month later we both just walked away, and have been gone for over six years !

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Jehovah's Witness juror - The actions of this juror are a complete disgrace, said Prince Georges County States Attorney Angela Alsobrooks.

by Sol Reform in

http://www.csnwashington.com/article/juror-email-leads-mistrial.

juror email leads to mistrial.

that juror now faces a possible contempt of court charge.the trial of a man involved in a high speed crash that killed a prince george's county police officer last year ended in a mistrial.. one of the jurors told the judge via email thursday morning that judging others was a violation of her religion as a jehovah's witness, news4's prince george's county bureau chief tracee wilkins reported.. kevon darnell neal, 23, was charged with vehicular manslaughter and fleeing and eluding following the death of officer adrian morris, 23.. morris and his partner were pursuing a stolen silver acura when their cruiser ran off interstate 95 near the powder mill road exit in august 2012. morris died after being ejected from the vehicle.

man in black

Back in the early 80's there was an elder from a neighboring hall who was called up for jury duty.

He was older, and really full of himself.

during jury selection, he stood up and gave a real long explaination why a jw could not serve on a jury

his story was on the front page of the local newspaper

witnesses were crowing about his "wonderful example" for the longest time.